Ep.188: Award Updates, ’25 HoF Ballot, Offseason Headlines
On this week’s episode of Long Gone, the boys discuss award winners, 2025 Hall of Fame, Ted Williams’ ’46 MVP award sold and reveal their top headlines this offseason.
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This week on The Underdog NFL Show:
Introduction (00:00 – 00:45)
Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines kick off the episode discussing Week 12 in the NFL. They share lighthearted banter, with Mario expressing his optimism and Chris teasing about the week’s games and intriguing storylines.
General NFL News (00:45 – 21:21)
- Daniel Jones Benched (00:45 – 06:11)
- The hosts analyze the Giants’ decision to bench Daniel Jones for Tommy DeVito. They discuss the team’s lack of ambition for the season and connect it to possible draft prospects like Travis Hunter.
- Travis Hunter’s potential as a two-way NFL player sparks a debate. Mario is skeptical about the feasibility of playing both sides at the professional level.
- Deion Sanders’ NFL Prospects (06:11 – 12:19)
- Deion’s career and coaching style are dissected, with Chris talking about his limitations in an NFL setting. They also explore Deion’s reputation among younger fans who view him as “Coach Prime” rather than an NFL legend.
- Jets’ Turmoil and More (12:19 – 21:21)
- Chris reports on the Jets firing GM Joe Douglas and Woody Johnson’s early dissatisfaction with Aaron Rodgers.
- They debate Rodgers’ future, highlighting his declining performance and potential landing spots, including the Browns and Titans. The possibility of Rodgers and Deshaun Watson on the same team is humorously dismissed as a PR nightmare.
Week 12 Game Previews (21:10 – 52:00)
The hosts review every matchup, diving into key narratives and team dynamics.
- Steelers vs. Browns (21:21 – 23:12)
- Discuss the low-scoring potential and Cleveland’s defensive strength. They focus on the unpredictable play of Jamis Winston for the Browns.
- Cowboys vs. Commanders (23:12 – 24:54)
- A significant point spread reflects Dallas’ struggles. The Commanders’ competitiveness, even in losses, is a key theme.
- Lions vs. Colts (24:54 – 26:46)
- Detroit’s offensive firepower is contrasted with Indianapolis’ reliance on Anthony Richardson, whose inconsistency is highlighted.
- Chiefs vs. Panthers (26:46 – 29:41)
- Kansas City’s efficiency and Patrick Mahomes’ similar stats to Bo Nix are discussed. The Panthers’ quarterback struggles are highlighted.
- Vikings vs. Bears (30:11 – 31:26)
- Minnesota’s resurgence contrasts with Chicago’s stagnation. The Bears’ Caleb Williams faces criticism for a lack of touchdown passes.
- Patriots vs. Dolphins (32:01 – 33:01)
- Miami’s offense shines against a struggling New England team that appears focused on draft positioning.
- Buccaneers vs. Giants (36:21 – 37:01)
- Mike Evans’ return could bolster Tampa Bay, while the Giants continue to face quarterback instability with Tommy DeVito starting.
- Texans vs. Titans (39:11 – 40:41)
- Houston’s offensive improvement, including Nico Collins’ return, stands out. The Titans are described as unable to keep up.
- Broncos vs. Raiders (40:41 – 42:11)
- Denver’s defense and Bo Nix’s rookie performance are commended. The Raiders are framed as lacking cohesion.
- Cardinals vs. Seahawks (42:11 – 43:11)
- Arizona’s fight for NFC West dominance is key. Kyler Murray’s playmaking is seen as a challenge for Seattle’s defense.
- 49ers vs. Packers (43:11 – 44:11)
- The hosts praise Green Bay’s grown-up performance last week, spotlighting Christian McCaffrey’s consistency.
- Eagles vs. Rams (44:11 – 47:11)
- Philadelphia’s elite defense faces a tough test against Cooper Kupp and Puka Nacua. Rookie cornerback Quinyon Mitchell’s stellar season is highlighted.
- Ravens vs. Chargers (49:11 – 52:10)
- Baltimore’s strengths in clock management and running the ball are discussed, alongside the Chargers’ inability to finish games effectively.
Closing Thoughts (52:10 – End)
The hosts wrap up with reflections on standout players and entertaining storylines.
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