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Episode 28: No Pain, No Gain ft. Coach Darien Harris

Mario Hines April 26, 2022

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This week on Appraise The Phrase:

Mario and Twenty welcome Michigan State University Football Coach and Director of Player Engagement Darien Harris to the Expression Appraisal Table.

We’ve all likely heard the phrase No Pain, No Gain in our lives. Usually while experiencing something excruciating. Does this expression stand the test of time?

Watch as Mario is joined by Twenty and Michigan State University Football Coach and Director of Player Engagement Darien Harris to discuss the meaning and origin of No Pain, No Gain. Coach Harris dives into how the phrase resonates in his journey from D1 athlete to coach and connects it to how the Michigan State Football staff approaches the student athletes in today’s game.

Coach Darien Harris is the Director of Player Engagement at Michigan State University. In his third year, he has been a key contributor to providing a platform for MSU student-athletes to thrive on and off the field, including maximizing opportunities provided by the new NIL rule. Coach Harris was a former Spartan captain on the 2015 Big Ten Championship team that reached the College Football Playoff. Following his Spartan career, Harris spent time in the Canadian Football League with Ottawa and served as an analyst for the Big Ten Network. He has extensive broadcast experience, serving as a frequent contributor on several radio and television shows. You can find Coach Harris and keep up with all things Michigan State Football at:
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0:00 Workout w/ Mrs. Fonda Opener
0:53 Intro
1:23 Roll Call
4:00 Black Coaches, Black Fathers
11:19 Webster’s Defines No Pain, No Gain
15:10 It’s Time To Unveil The Origin
18:28 Brotherly Advice from a Greek Poet
23:40 According To The Pain Is The Reward. Is The Journey The Reward?
28:24 Are Super Bowls A True Measurement of Success for QBs?
32:41 Ben Franklin and Poor Richard
36:32 Feel The Burn With Jane Fonda
38:29 Appraise The Phrase
43:55 What to expect from Michigan State football in 2022
46:57 The Dictionary of Misinformation

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